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	<title>Commenti a: Pope Francis: Toward Which Pontificate?</title>
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		<title>Di: James</title>
		<link>https://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-toward-which-pontificate#comment-1296334</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2016 03:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can only hope there are enough cognitively equipped and emotionally balanced in high places who share your view.
I&#039;m becoming doubtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can only hope there are enough cognitively equipped and emotionally balanced in high places who share your view.<br />
I&#8217;m becoming doubtful.</p>
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		<title>Di: S. Armaticus</title>
		<link>https://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-toward-which-pontificate#comment-1296072</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Armaticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2016 13:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the controversial statements of Francis, everybody is focusing on the error, but nobody is taking his &quot;teaching&quot; seriously. It has become a caricature. Maybe this is the silver lining in the entire Francis, bishop of Rome fiasco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the controversial statements of Francis, everybody is focusing on the error, but nobody is taking his &#8220;teaching&#8221; seriously. It has become a caricature. Maybe this is the silver lining in the entire Francis, bishop of Rome fiasco.</p>
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		<title>Di: TLM</title>
		<link>https://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-toward-which-pontificate#comment-1296000</link>
		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 22:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Papacy is undermining the Church of Jesus Christ in a most profound manner.  I am tired of listening to Bishops who insist that he is not &#039;speaking from the Chair&#039; so nothing to worry about.  He is destroying the Church with almost every utterance that comes out of his mouth with the most anti Catholic ludicrous ramblings that only can be attributed to someone that is either mentally incapacitated or trying to destroy the Church. And our ever so spineless Bishops are SILENT!!  Inexcusable!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Papacy is undermining the Church of Jesus Christ in a most profound manner.  I am tired of listening to Bishops who insist that he is not &#8216;speaking from the Chair&#8217; so nothing to worry about.  He is destroying the Church with almost every utterance that comes out of his mouth with the most anti Catholic ludicrous ramblings that only can be attributed to someone that is either mentally incapacitated or trying to destroy the Church. And our ever so spineless Bishops are SILENT!!  Inexcusable!!!</p>
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		<title>Di: James</title>
		<link>https://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-toward-which-pontificate#comment-1295977</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 16:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expanded papacy? A contemplative face and an active one? Two popes? Any pope? 
Has the papacy been replaced by a third world dictatorship fueled by subterfuge, notions and confected contrivances? By personal preferences?
“To some extent, one would be correct in thinking that pointing the finger at the old establishment is a rather useful tactic for hiding what the new establishment is doing.”
Stop. Right there, Andrea – you hit it right on the head.
Like so many of us, having endured the ravages of the post-Conciliar Church, and knowing well all species of clerics and theological experts inhabiting our bare ruined choir, from the moment of his election it was not difficult to foresee what was ahead. It took no depth of insight. All that was required was the abandonment of the venerable life boat of denial. That done, I wish I could say that all has come to pass as expected, but I can’t. It is ever so far worse than I could have imagined. It is a once revolting and heartbreaking.
The most revelatory reported event of this epoch was announced with Cardinal Forte’s revelation of the back story of footnote 351. It says everything. As reported by multiple sites on the web in early May:  “If we speak explicitly about Communion for the divorced and remarried,’ said Archbishop Forte, reporting a ‘joke’ of Pope Francis, ‘you do not know what a terrible mess we will make. So we won’t speak plainly, [but] do it in a way that the premises are there, then I will draw out the conclusion’.”
Simply dishonest and totally unreliable and entirely unacceptable. 
The veracity of this report is supported by those who find favor at the Domus Sanctae Marthae, those appointed to the episcopate, those targeted with the pejorative, those who are disciplined with the back of the hand. It is supported by the words and activities of Cardinals such as Danneels, Kasper, Lehmann and Marx. Consultors such as Archbishop “Tucho” Fernandez – “Heal me with your mouth?” Maybe it is time for a significant number of clerics to govern their mouths, abandon their own agendas, and work out of the Church’s understanding of the Holy Gospel, the Apostolic Tradition and the Magisterium. Not the new and improved version of the past fifty years rewrapped in Marx, Darwin and Freud, but the original version developed organically and contiguously from the Word over two thousand years.
When the Deposit of the Faith is being laid bare to assaults of the kind it is presently enduring, (on the horizon it is said, intercommunion with the Lutherans, accommodation of the Medjugorje “event”) it is time for all of us to take not only notice, but adult responsibility for what is transpiring. Some individuals are just not up to the positions they hold, unless there is another criteria for critique operative in the background. Ecclesiastics from the top to the bottom need be held accountable for proper business practice, moral conduct across the range of personal behavior and ecclesiastical protocols, and scrupulous protection of doctrine and dogma. The role of the Holy Father is to …”guard and set forth the Deposit of Faith handed down from the Apostles.” [Dogmatic Constitution “Pastor aeternus” of Vatican I (1869-70)].  That is the guarantee that all of us will be dealt with justly in the Household of Faith. Not “hagan lio!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expanded papacy? A contemplative face and an active one? Two popes? Any pope?<br />
Has the papacy been replaced by a third world dictatorship fueled by subterfuge, notions and confected contrivances? By personal preferences?<br />
“To some extent, one would be correct in thinking that pointing the finger at the old establishment is a rather useful tactic for hiding what the new establishment is doing.”<br />
Stop. Right there, Andrea – you hit it right on the head.<br />
Like so many of us, having endured the ravages of the post-Conciliar Church, and knowing well all species of clerics and theological experts inhabiting our bare ruined choir, from the moment of his election it was not difficult to foresee what was ahead. It took no depth of insight. All that was required was the abandonment of the venerable life boat of denial. That done, I wish I could say that all has come to pass as expected, but I can’t. It is ever so far worse than I could have imagined. It is a once revolting and heartbreaking.<br />
The most revelatory reported event of this epoch was announced with Cardinal Forte’s revelation of the back story of footnote 351. It says everything. As reported by multiple sites on the web in early May:  “If we speak explicitly about Communion for the divorced and remarried,’ said Archbishop Forte, reporting a ‘joke’ of Pope Francis, ‘you do not know what a terrible mess we will make. So we won’t speak plainly, [but] do it in a way that the premises are there, then I will draw out the conclusion’.”<br />
Simply dishonest and totally unreliable and entirely unacceptable.<br />
The veracity of this report is supported by those who find favor at the Domus Sanctae Marthae, those appointed to the episcopate, those targeted with the pejorative, those who are disciplined with the back of the hand. It is supported by the words and activities of Cardinals such as Danneels, Kasper, Lehmann and Marx. Consultors such as Archbishop “Tucho” Fernandez – “Heal me with your mouth?” Maybe it is time for a significant number of clerics to govern their mouths, abandon their own agendas, and work out of the Church’s understanding of the Holy Gospel, the Apostolic Tradition and the Magisterium. Not the new and improved version of the past fifty years rewrapped in Marx, Darwin and Freud, but the original version developed organically and contiguously from the Word over two thousand years.<br />
When the Deposit of the Faith is being laid bare to assaults of the kind it is presently enduring, (on the horizon it is said, intercommunion with the Lutherans, accommodation of the Medjugorje “event”) it is time for all of us to take not only notice, but adult responsibility for what is transpiring. Some individuals are just not up to the positions they hold, unless there is another criteria for critique operative in the background. Ecclesiastics from the top to the bottom need be held accountable for proper business practice, moral conduct across the range of personal behavior and ecclesiastical protocols, and scrupulous protection of doctrine and dogma. The role of the Holy Father is to …”guard and set forth the Deposit of Faith handed down from the Apostles.” [Dogmatic Constitution “Pastor aeternus” of Vatican I (1869-70)].  That is the guarantee that all of us will be dealt with justly in the Household of Faith. Not “hagan lio!”</p>
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		<title>Di: MONDAY EDITION &#8211; Big Pulpit</title>
		<link>https://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-toward-which-pontificate#comment-1295928</link>
		<dc:creator>MONDAY EDITION &#8211; Big Pulpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 05:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Di: Barbara Jensen</title>
		<link>https://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-toward-which-pontificate#comment-1295907</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 00:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very bogged down view of what is transpiring in Rome. Said simply, Bergoglio is not orthodox in his teaching.  He has trashed and distorted basic elements of sacramental life in the Church.  The videotape of Pope Benedict&#039;s anniversary of priesthood shown recently shows something very much &#039;off&#039; and gives credence to the thesis that Benedict was forced out and is in a man-made &#039;incapacitated&#039; predicament.  This lends itself to the serious situation of an antipope at the helm.  Quit with the political babbling and face the fact that Bergoglio is on a trajectory of destruction.  You cannot see it either because you are missing the forest for the trees or you are part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very bogged down view of what is transpiring in Rome. Said simply, Bergoglio is not orthodox in his teaching.  He has trashed and distorted basic elements of sacramental life in the Church.  The videotape of Pope Benedict&#8217;s anniversary of priesthood shown recently shows something very much &#8216;off&#8217; and gives credence to the thesis that Benedict was forced out and is in a man-made &#8216;incapacitated&#8217; predicament.  This lends itself to the serious situation of an antipope at the helm.  Quit with the political babbling and face the fact that Bergoglio is on a trajectory of destruction.  You cannot see it either because you are missing the forest for the trees or you are part of it.</p>
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